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				<title>Re: Statistics</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>SusanatLulu</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>6968</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I find the statistics fascinating too. I've noticed hits on "Know Your Onions" in far-off places. It's also eye-opening to think that others are monitoring my own internet usage in the same way.</p> <p>One odd thing I've noticed - my ISP is shown in the statistics as "Energis Uk". My ISP was Freeserve, then that became Wanadoo that became Orange. I never knew I was now with Energis Uk - if I really am??</p> <p>Best wishes</p> <p>Susan</p> 
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				<guid>http://lulu.wikidot.com/forum/t-6260#post-19796</guid>
				<title>Re: Statistics</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Peter Rogerson</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>7143</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I agree with that comment but I still research the statistics regularly for my own pages because I want to get a clear idea of where I'm researched from and why. I'm amazed how many visits I get from countries like Turkey, and at the moment I'm proving a hit in Australia. It's also fascinating seeing what my visitors put in their search engines and may inform any future expansion (if any!!) I make to my pages on this Wiki.</p> <p>Peter</p> 
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				<guid>http://lulu.wikidot.com/forum/t-6260#post-19718</guid>
				<title>Re: Statistics</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>lasatalayas</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>10655</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>For those of us running major web sites and closely monitoring the stats the most annoying thing is the AOL users. Some years ago I thought that one of my visitors lived in New York - but it was just AOL routing thro' one of their many US hubs. I've also noticed that one AOL user session can actually have several lnks open with multiple addresses!</p> 
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				<guid>http://lulu.wikidot.com/forum/t-6260#post-19646</guid>
				<title>Re: Statistics</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Peter Rogerson</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>7143</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>It could be that the million or so Luluers in N W Wales are as far away from their service provider as I am from mine. We've been through this before somewhere and it's a shame that there's not a way of identifying where the actual user is as opposed to where his service provider is.</p> <p>Peter</p> 
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				<guid>http://lulu.wikidot.com/forum/t-6260#post-19576</guid>
				<title>Re: Statistics</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>lasatalayas</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>10655</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Coulds be that all the gateways are the other side of the border!</p> 
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				<title>Re: Statistics</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Taffybach</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>7088</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>OK fellow Welshmen.<br /> Whats up with you lot in North West Wales! Don't you have computers up there!? :-)</p> 
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				<guid>http://lulu.wikidot.com/forum/t-6260#post-19454</guid>
				<title>Re: Statistics</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Chris Bond</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>1848</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>The Clustrmap is now upgraded, so the continents can now be zoomed in on by clicking on them, and the UK can be zoomed in on via the Europe map. Some interesting locations on there.</p> 
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				<guid>http://lulu.wikidot.com/forum/t-6260#post-17723</guid>
				<title>Re: Statistics</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Chris Bond</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>1848</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>At about 50p per month it's not really worth the hassle of arranging shared payment. My own site gets about 10,000 page hits a month currently, so a lot more than shown on the map; as I said, and unlike the one here, it only shows visitors to my homepage and not the other 190+ pages on the site. As the side menu here is featured on all of our individual pages the Clustrmap for the wiki will count every single page hit.</p> 
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				<guid>http://lulu.wikidot.com/forum/t-6260#post-17674</guid>
				<title>Re: Statistics</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 08:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Peter Rogerson</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>7143</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Looks very useful, Chris, and you certainly get a lot of visitors according to the clustrmap you provided a link to. But are you financing the map on this wiki yourself? Surely even modest costs, to be fair to you, should be shared.</p> <p>Peter</p> 
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				<guid>http://lulu.wikidot.com/forum/t-6260#post-17640</guid>
				<title>Re: Statistics</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Chris Bond</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>1848</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I have upgraded the Clustrmaps (only 99 cents a month) so that you will be able to click on the map and zoom in on the continents, and on the Europe map you will be able to zoom in on the UK. It'll take about 48 hours for the upgrade to take effect but should be more informative from here on. I use this same setup on my Cornish Sourcebook website. Click <a href="http://clustrmaps.com/counter/maps.php?url=http://cornovia.org.uk&amp;type=small&amp;clusters=no&amp;map=world" >here</a> to see the one there in action. This one counts the visitors to my homepage only so is not as impressive as the UK Wiki Lulu Clustrmap will be.</p> 
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				<guid>http://lulu.wikidot.com/forum/t-6260#post-14438</guid>
				<title>Re: Statistics</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Chris Bond</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>1848</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Both the Statcounter map and the Clustrmaps map seem to be working, so it may have been a temporary blip.</p> 
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				<guid>http://lulu.wikidot.com/forum/t-6260#post-14343</guid>
				<title>Re: Statistics</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Peter Rogerson</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>7143</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Of course you're right, and every bit of information, even when it's coloured by mis-information, may turn out to be useful. But what's happened to the map? It's gorn.</p> <p>Peter</p> 
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				<guid>http://lulu.wikidot.com/forum/t-6260#post-14281</guid>
				<title>Re: Statistics</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Chris Bond</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>1848</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I think that the major advantage of the stats is for checking which pages have been viewed, how visitors are navigating around the site, where they have come from, keywords used in Google etc. Although the visitor locations and maps are interesting they wouldn't really be that informative even if they showed wholly accurate locations. Though I must say that the majority of hits shown in the US are likely to be from those actually in the US and the other non-UK hits shown are highly likely to be visitors from those particular countries, so they do show some useful information.</p> 
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				<title>Re: Statistics</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 08:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Peter Rogerson</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>7143</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Hello,<br /> These two posts have made me look at the stats of my own visitors, most of whom I know, and nobody's ISP is where I'd think it was. An AOL visitor is in that suburb of London known as Scarborough and my own Virgin Media (ntl) address puts Mansfield in Ely. I've had visitors from both the USA as well as other corners of creation and now I'm concluding that my fame is considerably more parochial than I thought it was. It's a good thing that it doesn't really matter.</p> <p>Peter</p> 
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				<title>Re: Statistics</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Chris Bond</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>1848</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Hi Susan</p> <p>My own ISP (AOL) is routed through Virginia, though sometimes it turns up as London. I imagine that many people using AOL are routed via the US, and I know from the statistics for my Cornish website that most visitors in Cornwall are routed via Plymouth, Bristol, London etc (because I know who those particular visitors are). The only ones which do show up in Cornwall are generally those using the internet at schools, colleges, hospitals etc in Cornwall. Even Cornwall County Council and the Royal Cornwall Museum, both of which I work at, show up as Aberdeen and Somerset respectively. So the statistics are not a wholly reliable guide, though the general trends shown by these will be more or less accurate.</p> 
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				<title>Statistics</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>SusanatLulu</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>6968</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Hello</p> <p>Looking at the wikidot statistics at first I thought I had a fan in the US; then I noticed that the said fan was mirroring my activity. Then the penny (or cent) dropped. I sometimes look at the wikidot at lunchtime in the office. Our office IT has been outsourced to a firm that I now find is based in the US. So I am one the large blobs in the the US!</p> <p>I wonder how many other visitors produce 'blobs' at some distance from their own physical presence?</p> <p>Best wishes</p> <p>Susan</p> 
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